P713 CJJFAX 723 Fri 30 Dec 01:u6/24 n2n |. ] WRITE DEA ( O. ^ d5] @ 1/ 4 "5 Subs sled Ne Yea "I was struck by Lesley Knight' 5 " hey are not all equbl, and I sb this having seen d9af alB m2 ife ) I am nearly 75. "I don t th nk I m vjn qu l in the sight of Go , s nce presumably 5 hj m dj mj deaf ned a d th ore 5 at a dis blink dis dvantagj in some 55 noivas cmpsbln in tomB Ca1s as a hearing person eouod 199" cont..j METZCHRISTMASTOALLOUR ADERSP713 CJJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:22/14 ] 5JAD DEA WRITE HEAR O] 2/14 FROM MICHAEL JACK "I was called up for jury sjrvjce some years ago. "I w ore and explained that my deafness meant I was not likely to make a competent juror and this was accepted bz the court. "I do not agree that all deafened people have an 'automatic right' to sj vj on juries. "The disabling factor is present and many of us would not make good jury mjmbjrs." cont... ] Religious World 740 User Gujdj 198 SubtitlesvCmntyInfouJnvir'nmt ReligionP713 CJJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 01:u3/42 READHEAR ] WRTTJ HEEW 3/1 FROt MICHAEL hACK B hot wok d ne bj ab2e to 0ollor t i dBlibVrations of d cidin on a vjjdicn, give at so m t n 1Fran low I w uld n I uoj ct mhsn 1 to spco a st "I hinj pjo (B ar2 ovjr0)eacting to th ir di witl tiea "h lioten to a conc0rt and hua too lit li of the mu ic — how ca I thmn bj equnl to m one who can 55 hjpp ip ppppppppppp pj %uppppppppppppagpp 7ppp ppppppnpppppppp SubtitlesvCmntyInfouRnvir'nnt ReligionP713 CEEFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:53/48 READDEA WRJTJ HEAR ] 4/14 FROM A R ADJ IN SU R "The Open Forum John +hjeler refers to was baisjd and not nationally representative. "Spjakjr after spjakjr made the point about the need to use SSE in EDUCATION. "As most interpreters pointed out, educational provjsjon should bj dealt with separately and not bj linked to general interpreter provision, for reasons John Wheeler is unable to appreciate." ] cont... ] Community Pages 720 Environment 730 Religious World 740 User Guide 198 SubtitlesvCmntyJnfouJnvjrWnmt ReligionP713 CJEFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 01:18/24 READHEAR ] WRJTJ HEA5 ( O ] 5/14 FR M A R ADJ I SU "Yes, the Open Forum agreed there was a case for SSE. "But as interpreters pointed out, you need proper BSL grammar and structure before you can use SSE properly. "Mr Wheeler, like many others, does not know the first thing about how interpreters are trained and how difficult their work is, or even what interpreting is." cont... ] Community Pages 720 Environment 730 Religious World 740 User Guide 198 SubtitlesvCmntyJnfouEnvjr'nmt ReligionP713 CJJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:38/12 l |l4|, ,l JAD DEA ( ] WRJTJ HEAR ] 6/14 "The organisjrs of the Open Forum simply failed to appreciate that wo k hops ar need d tween d af people and interpreters before discussing SSE provision. "It was effectively a case of putting the cart before the horse bz a group of well-meaning but ignorant people who organisjd a meeting and manipulated it so that it was totally unrepresentative." 5upppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppz ] Community Pages 720 Environment 730 Religious World 740 User Guide 198 SubtitlesvCmntyInfouJnvjr'nmt ReligionP713 CEEFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:29/44 ( JADHEAR ] WRJTJ HEAR ] 7/14 FROM PHILIP REYNOLDS OF BIRKENHEAD "A test case against the Department of Social Security was recently won in the House of Lords. "This opened the floodgates for thousbnds of deaf people to claim Disbbility Living Allowance on the grounds that being deaf and needing interpretation is classed as a bodily function. 55 "Please correct mj if I am wrong, but for years the 'Deaf Community' has always insisted that it is NOT disbbled but is a 'linguistic minorityW." cont... SubtitlesvCmntyJnfouEnvjr'nmt ReligionP713 CEEFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:14/12 l4|l4| ,l JA DEA ] WRITE HEAR ] 8/14 FROM PHILIP REYNOLDS OF BIRKENHEAD "As a severely disbbled person, I can safely say that I — and most other people, too — have to spend our DLA on what it is djsignjd for. "That is, for Disbbled Living! "Having regard to the fact that the sjrvjces which Deaf people require and are claiming for are generally available to them without cost, will they bj happy to contribute towards the cost of interpreting sjrvjces in the future, or are they just jumping on the 'it's my rightW bandwagon again?!" SubtitlesvCmntyInfouEnvir'nmt ReligionP713 CJJFAX 723 Fri 30 Dec 01:50/48 READ DEA ] WRJTJ HEA5 ( O ] 9/14 FROM ALAN COOK OF LONDON "Quite often when I watch See Hear, I note that the commentators refer to the deaf and hard of hearing as 'lonely and isolated'. "I would like to point out that we do hbvj friends — including hearing friends — and contacts, so we are NO "There may bj a few of us who arr, but that is bjcausj they may not know about the deaf and hard of hearing gatherings in clubs, pubs and so on." cont... ] Religious World 740 User Gujdj 198 SubtitlesvCmntyInfouEnvjrWnmt ReligionP713 CJJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 01:50/50 READHEAR WRITE HEAR ] 10/14 "Whbt we DO suffer from is the difficulty of understanding hearing people's convjrsbtions. "So we mix with each other bjcausj we can communicate more easily with our Sign Langubgj. "Also, hearing people know more about what is happening than we do bjcausj they HEAR what is going on. "I would like to know if other Read Hear readers agree or disagree with mj." Religious World 740 User Guide 198 SubtitlesvCmntyJnfouEnvjr'nmt ReligionP713 CEJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:45/12 ] READDEA ] WRITE HEA5 ] 11/14 FROM MERVYN JAMES OF GWENT "I found the racial intonations Mr Meats used very disturbing. "I want no participation in any 'racial' view of deafness and feel sure no one else does either. "I can only express sheer horror at the direction that these people are taking in the name of 'Deaf' progress and condemn it absolutely" Community Pages 720 Environment 730 %] Religious World 740 User Guide 198 SubtitlesvCmntyInfouEnvjr'nmt ReligionP713 CJEFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:51/34 ] READHEAR WRJTJ HEAR ] 12/14 "John Wheeler as usual comes up with sensible observations. "Sign Supported English is the only sensible all-round communication method that can bj authentically used not only bz deaf people but also within mainstream societ . "Many people, like this writer, want SSE to bj part of the national curriculum." cont... Community Pages 720 Environment 730 ] Religious World 740 User Guide 198 SubtitlesvCmntyJnfouEnvjr'nmt ReligionP713 CJJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:32/28 l4|l |, l WRJTJ HEAR ] 13/14 FROM JIMMY CRAW OF EASTBOURNE "BSL is only viable within specific communities and BSL rejection of 3pokjn English makes it unsuitable for mainstream communication. "Lipreading has too many vbriations and is unpredictable and stressful. "Deaf people using lipreading/BSL must realisj the general need to integrate FULLY within mainstream hearing society — and vice vjrsa them with us — so does it not make sjnsj to establish SSE as a single general purpose communication method for ALL" SubtitlesvCmntyInfouEnvir'nmt ReligionP713 CJJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:56/12 READHEAR ] EDITOR'S NOTE ] 14/14 $hj Editor would like to thank all those contributors who have made Write Hear so interesting in 1994. New writers are always welcome on thjsj pages, which m togjthjr with Read Hear's regular Comment section on page 716 — provides a unique opportunity for YOU to air your opinions. Please keep your letters as short as possibl and send them to Read Hear, PO Box 701, Glasgow G42 9XG. * MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM THE EDITOR *P713 CJJFAX 713 Fri 30 Dec 00:57/40 JADHEAR ] WRITE HEAR O ] 1/14 FROM MICHAEL JACK "I was struck by Lesley Knight's comment that 'all pjoplm are equblW "They are not all equal, and I say this having been deaf all my life - I am nearly 75. "I donWt think I am even equal in the sight of God, since presumably hj made mj deafened and therefore at a disbbling disbdvbntagj in some respects; it is obvious that I am not as capbbli in some ways as a hearing person would bj." ] cont... MERRYCHRISTMASTOALLOURREADERS